Psychology

» redback - struggling with self-image

Laurie's topics really get me thinking out loud...for too long. Be patient with me.

Hi Pink

i"I think Laurie might be on to something, actually. Don't you?"

I don't know..and I don't know how your post fits in to Laurie's premise. There are countless anecdotes and what we called at work "horror stories" to fit many occasions involving coping with life's challenges. Countless more never hit this particular radar as they coped well or coped unaided...so I was always cautious to draw conclusions. And you may recall I don't like labels and generalisations. SO, my questions above remain and I'd probably prefer to see the data.

Following Laurie along my line of thinking, the end result could mean one or both parents carry the gene. Thus, the question could be why does it bypass some siblings. That's where we have countless studies of twins, eg:
http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2003/1...

Are we confusing links and causal relationships? The fact 50% of married couples were male used to require no analysis. Crossdressing and bisexuality within marriage and what is a "struggle"?

And if the gene could be identified, do potential parents get the chance of further pre-selection. To this simple dag, what is the question being asked here?

I read your points. Does 'fraternal-based' homosexuality arise from any power play between male siblings? Is it the one who "wins" the power or the one who loses it (or never had it), the determinant or indicator? Is it only indicative of the predatory homosexual ie not to be confused with the predatory heterosexual?

I'm not sure I get your point except homosexuality may be learned from ancient times vs genetic? Why not an unknown combination of both where the exact mix is almost irrelevant.

Hi Laurie.

I have only just read your linked article then your self-image response. As I read it, 10% of those studied (number??) with eating disorders are male. 50% of these are understood to have engaged in "homosexual conduct" before the eating disorder. The North American stereotype of "masculine" is the benchmark they failed with some unknown performance indicators of 'struggle'. (some struggle in silence?) It's not stated how many of the 90% of sufferers ie female struggled with stereotypical "femininity" as an indicator of their homosexuality. Chance or similarities with males?

Some of our footballers and high profile sports stars etc meet your stated "North American definition of "masculinity" except for the alleged contradiction their homosexuality brings.

I never found your definition but I can see while it may exclude the "sensitive new age guy" if they really exist it would not preclude impotency.

Seriously, I wouldn't know whether you are describing a risk factor, genetic factor or simply statistical odds. When we examine the incidence of mental ill-health, does it involve a disproportionate number of homosexuals?

There were extensive studies here clearly linking prison record, drugs, housebreaking (to buy drugs), claiming welfare in one certain area to say the odds were very high that if one factor was established, all others very probably existed. How sound is the 'discovery' you talk about?

Homosexual activity in prison is common. What's the self-image of those who submit? Do most transgender males suffer eating disorders?

-- posted by redback